This event has now taken place but you can watch the video recording of it through our Youtube Channel, get to it by clicking the button below
When
Monday, July 5th from 6pm to 8pm UK timeWhere
Online symposium via Zoom.Format
There'll be a great line-up of speakers plus ample scope for discussion and debate.Why this is such an important consultation; and why this is such an important symposium
This is a particularly important symposium, about a particularly important regulatory consultation.
The Financial Conduct Authority is consulting on the introduction of a new Consumer Duty, CP 21/13. Whilst we believe that introducing a Consumer Duty would be a step in the right direction, we also believe it is a long way short of what is really needed – a legally-enforceable Duty of Care.
The TTF has previously set out its thoughts on the need for a proper Duty of Care, see here, where we argue that only a legally-enforceable Duty of Care provides the consumer protections that are needed.
Why this should be a Consultation on a proper, full-strength Duty of Care; not just a watered-down Consumer Duty
We believe that the FCA may be placing itself in breach of the law as a result of this consultation exercise, and that certain statements contained within its paper may have the effect of misleading respondents in a way that may jeopardise the integrity of their responses, to such an extent that they should not be relied upon in setting policy.
We make these points because CP21/13 exists because of an obligation placed upon the FCA in terms of section 29 of the Financial Services Act 2021 to consult on the question of whether there should be established a general rule that authorised persons should owe a duty of care to consumers. We are concerned that the consultation exercise currently being conducted by the FCA fails to address that issue and that, in consequence, the FCA may well be in breach of its statutory obligation.
Our understanding of the legal obligation that the FCA has to Parliament regarding CP21/13
Section 29 of the 2021 Act states (among other things):
“29. FCA rules about level of care provided to consumers by authorised persons
(1) The Financial Conduct Authority must carry out a public consultation about whether it should make general rules providing that authorised persons owe a duty of care to consumers.
(2) The consultation must include consultation about—
(a) whether the Financial Conduct Authority should make other provision in general rules about the level of care that must be provided to consumers by authorised persons, either instead of or in addition to a duty of care,
(b) whether a duty of care should be owed, or other provision should apply, to all consumers or to particular classes of consumer, and
(c) the extent to which a duty of care, or other provision, would advance the Financial Conduct Authority’s consumer protection objective (see section 1C of the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000).”
It should be noted that section 29(2)(b) specifically requires there to be conducted a consultation on whether a duty of care should be owed by authorised persons to consumers.
Thoughts about the Consultation
The manner in which the Consultation seeks to focus the question of a general duty of care is found in Question 12, which states:
“Q12 Do you agree that what we have proposed amounts to a duty of care? If not, what further measures would be needed? Do you think it should be labelled as a duty of care, and might there be upsides or downsides in doing so?”
This question proceeds upon the narrative given at paragraphs 2.31 and 2.32. In particular, paragraph 2.31 states:
“What constitutes a ‘duty of care’ may have different meanings, and our existing rules already create different duties of care for firms. The generally accepted legal meaning of a duty of care is an obligation to exercise reasonable care and skill when providing a product or service and this is, for example, reflected in Principle 2’s requirement that a firm must conduct its business with due skill, care and diligence. In addition, section 49 of the Consumer Rights Act 2015 (CRA) implies into every contract for a trader supplying a service to a consumer a term saying that the trader must perform the service with reasonable care and skill.”
We believe there is a strong risk that both the question and the explanation are (literally) legally incoherent and inaccurate or, at any rate, severely misleading.
The term “duty of care” is recognised to have a very specific meaning in law. It is of the essence of a duty that it creates an obligation on a party (A) which is owed to another party (B), breach of which creates a legal liability on the part of A to pay damages to B, in the event that B has suffered loss as a result of the breach of duty. It is clear that what section 29(2)(b) requires the FCA to do is to consult on whether such a duty ought to be imposed. To say (as paragraph 2.1 says) that “’duty of care’ may have different meanings” is, simply wrong, we feel, in that it is recognised to have only one meaning in law.
Two sets of topics to be covered at this event
For the first time ever, we will not only be covering issues relevant to the consultation that has been opened; we will also be covering the very basis upon which the consultation has been written, challenging the terms being used and shining a bright light on why consumers need and deserve a full-strength Duty of Care and why we should publicly reject the introduction of a watered-down Consumer Duty.
This is definitely a “not to be missed event” and all are welcome to attend at no cost.
Here's the programme and timings so far...
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Welcome to the symposium, introductions and initial exploration of the main issues; by
Andy Agathangelou
Founder, Transparency Task Force; Governor, Pensions Policy Institute; Chair, Secretariat Committee, APPG on Pension Scams; Chair, Secretariat Committee, APPG on Personal Banking and Fairer Financial Services; Chair of the Violation Tracker UK Advisory Board
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Presentation #1, for 20 minutes + 5 minutes Q&A/Discussion by
Mark Bishop
Leader, Connaught Action Group
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Presentation #2, for 10 minutes + 5 minutes Q&A/Discussion by
Dominic Lindley
Director of Policy, New City Agenda
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Presentation #3, for 5 minutes by
Baroness Tyler of Enfield
Liberal Democrat Peer
Member of the House of Lords
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Presentation #4, for 5 minutes by
Yvonne Fovargue MP
Chair of the APPG on Debt and Personal Finance
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Presentation #5, for 10 minutes + 5 minutes Q&A/Discussion by
Iain Mitchell QC
Member, Tanfield Chambers
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The “Just a minute”-round
Inspired by the BBC Radio 4 programme, we have asked a selection of our attendees to spend just a minute sharing their thoughts on what has been covered during the symposium. But unlike the Radio 4 programme our speakers won’t be penalised for hesitation, repetition or deviation!
Speakers:
Sue Lewis
Former Chair of the FCA’s Financial Services Consumer Panel
Andrew Candy
Owner, Tentacle Ltd
Richard Emery
Bank Fraud Consultant, 4Keys International
Nigel Cairns
Self-employed
Philip Meadowcroft
Chairman, Brandmasters Executive Pension Scheme
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General discussion and debate, 25 minutes
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Final conclusions; and suggested next steps and close to the formal proceedings.
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*The programme will continuously evolve so is subject to change.
Mark Bishop
Leader, Connaught Action Group
Mark advises the Transparency Task Force leadership team on strategy matters. Having entered the world of financial services consumer advocacy in 2012 as de facto leader of the Connaught Action Group and member of the liquidators’ committee of the Connaught Income Fund Series 1, Mark now works with the principals of other action groups and lobbies regulators and politicians to improve the regulatory environment. Having worked as a journalist, media company executive, strategy consultant and corporate finance advisor, Mark holds an MBA from Cranfield University School of Management (where he is now a Visiting Fellow) and sits on the Advisory Board of the MBA programme at Sussex University, where he gained his first degree. He is also the author of a business book, The Future of Private Equity – Beyond the Mega Buy-Out.
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Dominic Lindley
Financial Services Consultant
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Yvonne Fovargue MP
Chair of the APPG on Debt and Personal Finance and APPG on Consumer Protection
Cutting her teeth as a Housing Officer on the Moss Side estate, Manchester in the early 1980s and later in her role as Chief Executive of St Helens Citizens Advice Bureau (1986-2010), Yvonne Fovargue has worked all her life to fight injustice and to speak up for those without a voice in society.
Born in Sale, Greater Manchester, Yvonne was educated locally before gaining a BA in English at Leeds University. She was an elected member of Warrington Council (2004-2010) and has served as a school governor and charity trustee.
Yvonne has held several shadow ministerial posts and her political interests include;
Welfare
Debt & Personal Finance (inc Payday loans)
Credit Unions
The Advice Sector and Voluntary Sector
Yvonne is the Chair of the All Party Group (APPG) – Debt & Personal Finance and the APPG Consumer Protection.
Yvonne received the Citizens Advice Parliamentarian of the Year Award for 2011.
Yvonne is married with one adult daughter and lives in Wigan with her husband.
She is a member of MENSA, an avid reader of crime fiction and a fan of the music of David Bowie.
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Baroness Claire Tyler of Enfield
Liberal Democrat Peer
Member of the House of Lords
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Iain Mitchell QC
Member, Tanfield Chambers
Iain G. Mitchell QC is a member of both the Scottish and English Bars, having been called to the Scottish Bar in 1976 and having taken silk in 1992. He was called to the English Bar in 2012. He has a wide and extensive practice in both Scotland and England, which ranges across all areas of civil law.
He is ranked in the Chambers Directory for IT Law and IP Law, and is ranked in the Legal 500 for Commercial Litigation and Intellectual Property, Information Technology and Media IT and IP Law.
He has a strong interest in Financial Services regulation, having frequently acted in both Scotland and England in banking cases, which include Grant v RBS and Glare v Clydesdale Bank plc in Scotland and Wellburn Care Homes v Clydesdale Bank plc in England. He also gave evidence on the regulation of Complex Financial Instruments to the Parliamentary Commission on Banking standards.
(See https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/jt201314/jtselect/jtpcbs/27/27v_we17.htm )
He also has an interest in IT law, and represents the Faculty of Advocates on the UK delegation to the CCBE, served as the Chair of the CCBE Working Party on Surveillance and UK expert on the CCBE IT Committee of the CCBE. He is a member of the IT Panel of the Bar Council of England & Wales and is Chairman of the Scottish Society for Computers and Law, as well as being a Liveryman of the Worshipful Company of Information Technologists.
He is an honorary lecturer at the Institut für Informations- Telekommunikations- und Medienrecht at the Wilhelms-Universität, Münster, Westphalia. He frequently gives lectures and speaks at Conferences. He is Joint Editor of the Journal of Open Law, Technology and Society (formerly the International Free and Open Source Law Review). His publications include contributions to Electronic Evidence (Butterworths), The Open Source Law Book (Open Source Press), Free and Open Source Software: Policy, Law and Practice (Oxford University Press) and Innovation and Future of the Legal Profession in Europe (Bruylant, Brussels), as well as frequent contributions to professional journals and general journalism.
He also has a particular interest in property law (having appeared as Senior Counsel in Moncrieff v Jamieson 2018 SC(HL)1), and Human Rights Law, including especially Legal Professional Privilege and the Rule of Law. He has lectured on Judicial Reform in former Soviet countries including Georgia and Kazakhstan and, on behalf of the CCBE frequently meets with and lobbies international bodies on this matter, including the UN Special Rapporteur on Human Rights, Interpol, The Council of Europe, the EU Institutions and the EU Fundamental Rights Agency, amongst others. He recently served on a Working party on Electronic evidence convened by the Centre for European Policy Studies.
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